Thomas Gibb(e)on's Family Chart

The descent of Thomas from John and then William is proven by the wills of William Harte and John of Taunton. Spelling of the surname vary.

Thomas' parents both died when he was young, so who cared for the family after that?

Descendants of John GIBBENS
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1-John GIBBENS b. Cir 1530, d. After 1609
+Unknown
--2-John GIBBENS of Taunton Castle b. Cir 1565, d. Bef 19 May 1610
+Thomasine HARTE m. 14 Dec 1588, St. Mary Magdalene Taunton Somerset, par.
William HARTE and Elizabeth
--3-John GIBBENS
--3-William GIBBENS of Holcomb Rogus b. Cir 1590, bur. 2 Jan 1618/19,
Holcomb Rogus Devonshire
+Johane ZEALE b. Cir 1594, m. 18 Jun 1613, Ansford Somerest, bur. 26 May
1619, Holcomb Rogus Devonshire, par. Thomas ZEALE and Unknown
--4-?? Major Thomas GIBBON M.P.?? of Christow c. 1616, Holcomb Rogus
Devonshire, d. 1 Mar 1666/67, Whitestone Exeter Devonshire, bur. 4
Mar 1666/67, Christow Devonshire
+Elizabeth DAVY of Canonteign d. 6 Jul 1660, bur. 6 Jul 1660,
Christow Devonshire, par. Robert DAVY and Rachell
--5-Thomas GIBBON b. Abt 1650, bur. 21 Sep 1715, St Lawrence, Exeter
--5-Edmund GIBBON of Tiverton c. 28 Feb 1653/54, Christow Devonshire,
bur. 1701, St. Peter's Tiverton
--5-Mallor GIBBINS c. 16 Aug 1656, Christow Devonshire
--5-Robert GIBBINS c. 23 Jun 1658, Christow Devonshire
--5-Three Daughters GIBBINS
+Margaret bur. 6 Sep 1684, Christow Devonshire
--4-Thomasine GIBBENS c. 31 Mar 1616, Holcomb Rogus Devonshire
--4-John GIBBENS c. 19 Feb 1617/18, Holcomb Rogus Devonshire
--3-Robert GIBBENS
--3-Philip GIBBENS
--3-Thomas GIBBENS
+Unknown
--4-Thomas GIBBENS c. 5 Mar 1611/12, St. James Taunton
--4-Jaine GIBBENS c. 20 Jan 1614/15, St. James Taunton
--3-Thomazine GIBBENS
--3-Mary GIBBENS
--3-Jane GIBBENS
--3-Dorthie GIBBENS
--3-Elizabeth GIBBENS
--2-Unknown GIBBENS
+John TOMPKINS
--3-Elizabeth TOMPKINS
--2-Susan GIBBENS
+HILL
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Thomas Gibbon of Exeter

Christow Church MI to Elizabeth Gibbon wife of Thomas Gibbon, 1660. bearing the Gibbons and Davy arms

Elizabeth Gibbon, scion of the illustrious house of Canonteign, beautiful, chaste and pious wife of Thomas Gibbins Esquire who bore his four sons and three young daughters, she being heavy with child died of an excessive haemorrhage and was buried on the same day on the 6th day of July in the year of Our Lord 1660.

Look again at the mournful view of the well remembered spouse and darling of her husband, once his sweet ornament death destroyed by the poured out blood of the double life. But for itself death became with the birth the foetus a new life. The ghostly chains of terrible death are broken and for both there now remains a quiet peace that will not die.

This is the confusion over Thomas Gibbon of Exeter, was he from Wales or Somerset, or, were there two men of the same name in Exeter in the mid 1600s? Was he a relative to Edward of the Cathedral? Edward's 2nd wife was a Mary Bluett of Holcomb Rogus.

How do I know that Thomas of Christow was the MP? --- I don’t have any thing to confirm that.
References:.
ECA book 61 1619 page 201 Edward Gibbons of the Canonton.[Canonteign] in Christow. This reference relates to Edward, musician, (c. 1598 – 1645) of Exeter Cathedral and if that is correct then Edward and Thomas's father may well be related.

Edward was chucked “out of doors” by Cromwell’s gang aged 80 in 1645 from his house in the Christow/ Dunsford area. Dr. John Walker's "Suffering of the Clergy" written 1714

Major Gibbons 1646, appointed Governor of Exeter Castle, 13 Mar. From: 'Index: A-J', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 5: 1646-1648 (1802), pp. 1-38. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=25462&strquery=Gibons. Date accessed: 09 September 2005.

Gibbons Thomas son of William of Holcomb, Devon, pleb. Lincoln Coll. Matric. 17 Apr 1635 age 19, barrister at law, Inner Temple 1646. MP for Exeter 1654 /5 and 1659. (see Foster's Judges and Barristers) born c. 1616. [from the Oxford Alumni]

Freemen of Exeter List by D&CRS.
Thomas Gibbons, gent. 10 Jul 1654 by order of the Mayor and Council.

DCNQ Vol 68 page 108
Thomas Gybbons paid £27 when parliament sat for 86 days 27 Jan to 22 Apr 1659

Devon Documents chapter 39 page 165. Devon Justices of Peace 1643 - 60
Thomas Gibbons 8 Jul 1659 (Restored Commonwealth)
From: 'List of speakers: Parliaments of 1656 and 1658-9', Diary of Thomas Burton esq, volume 4: March - April 1659 (1828), pp. 487-99. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=36964. Date accessed: 06 October 2005. Gibbons, Colonel, Exeter, 1654, 1658-9.

Deed references in DRO
Thomas Gibbons c. 1662 ref. 484m/T5/1
Thomas Gibbons of Christow,
Land at Mamhead, Harcombe Wood, Cockland . With Kirkham

Thomas Gibbons c. 1663 ref. 484m/T19/10D
Land at Farringdon . Little Dodsfield. With Kirkham of Pynhoe

Thomas must have left Canonteign to live in Whitestone c. 1660. This was the year his wife Elizabeth Davey died. I am wondering if Thomas lived at Canonteign courtesy of his wife and then had to leave on her death.

The coat of arms in Christow Church are very similar to ones use by Gibbons from Kent, Dorset and one of the Norfolk Gibbon families.

I need to work out how Thomas came to have the arms. Did Thomas “borrow” the arms to match his status as an MP or was he granted them? Is he a descendant of the Norfolk family and Edward Gibbons of the Cathedral? Orlando, Edward's brother used this coat of arms, so perhaps not:

Or the family of Kent and Edward the Historian? I can find no evidence that Edward of the Cathedral used a coat of arms. Where does William of Holcomb Rogus, father of Thomas, the MP fit in?

This article below adds more confusion.

[Ref: Dev & Corn. RS, Exeter Parish Registers II Vol. 2 - 3 page 612 / 3]

This was taken originally from extracts printed in the Exeter and Plymouth Gazette from Nov 1881 to Jul 1883 by Robert Dymond.

Memorial Stones Allhallows, Goldsmith Street

A stone with a long Latin inscription records the burial of the infant son Edmund, the youngest child of Thomas Gibbon Esq. And Grace, his wife. The inscription is undated, but the register shows that the child was bapt. 19 Dec 1684, and bur. 11 Apr 1685. The father was recorder of Exeter in times when the holder of the office usually resided in the city, and was more intimately concerned with municipal affairs than is now the case. Thomas Gibbon served the office for four years, from 1684, having been appointed by the crown on the surrender of the city charter. He was of Welsh extraction, his grandfather, William Gibbon, who practised as an attorney in Devonshire, being the younger of the two sons of William and Wenllion Gibbon of Pendoylon, co. Glamorgan. William Gibbon, the attorney, had a son, Thomas, of Christow, who, being destined to the higher branch of the legal profession, was admitted a student of the Inner Temple in Nov 1637 and called to the Bar in 1646. His two sons, Thomas and Edmund, were also barristers, the former appearing as “Councellor Gibbon” in the parish register in 1690, when he and “Councelloer Row” were godfathers to a son of the Rev. Thomas Rundle the minister of Allhallows. Thomas Gibbon, the Recorder, was appointed Serjeant at Law in 1700, and was buried at St. Laurence, Exeter, 21 Sep 1715. The learned Serjeant was twice married. In addition to Edmund he had, by his first wife, a son, Thomas, (who died unmarried and a lunatic), and George, who became Lieut. Governor of Plymouth town and citadel but, dying childless 1 Feb 1746, his extensive estates at Offwell and elsewhere in Devon were escheated to the Crown (by Inquisition 15 Jul 1746), though afterwards restored (by a judgment of 22 Geo. II [1749]) to his kinsman Thomas Gibbon of Whitchurch, co. Glamorgan, a lineal descendant of the eldest son of the Sergeant’s great grandfather. The Serjeant’s second wife was Margery, one of the daughters of Sir George Cary of Tor Abbey knt. This lady was born 22 Oct 1672, her marriage settlement is dated 15 Jan 1707 and, having survived her husband, she died without issue in 1717.

No mention of a MP here!!

Oxford Alumini gives us this: CD version page 560.

Gibbons Thomas (Gibbens) son of William of Holcomb Devon, pleb. Lincoln Coll. Matric. 17 Apr 1635 age 19, barrister at law, Inner Temple 1646. MP for Exeter 1654 /5 and 1659. (see Foster's Judges and Barristers) [born c. 1616, died 1667 in Whitestone]

Gibbon Thomas son of Thomas of Whitstone Devon, gent. Wadham Coll. Matric. 30 Mar 1666 age 16. Poss. Barrister at Law Inner Temple 1673 (as of Oxford, gent. ), bencher and serjeant at law 1700. Father of next…. (see Foster's Judges and Barristers) [born c. 1650]

Gibbon Thomas son of Thomas of London [?] arm. Wadham Coll. Matric. 18 Mar 1696/7 age 16, student of Inner Temple 1701. [born c. 1681]
(see Foster's Inns of Court Reg.)

Fosters Judges & Barristers. These are 5 vols of 15ins x 9ins x 2ins of soft leather spines and rather worn marbled front and back covers and inside page after lined page of tiny writing , presumably J Foster`s own, of names and details , so:-

1) Edmund of the parish of Christow , Devon , adm to Lyons Inn 22nd Nov 1672, Inner Temple 1682

2) Edmund son and heir of Edmund of the Inner Temple adm 1683

3) George 2nd son of Thomas of Exeter, adm to Middle Temple 1697

4) Thomas son and heir of William late of co Devon gent decd , adm Inner Temple 1638 barr 1646 .

Thank you for reading all this, I would love to hear from you if you can add to this, or have be able to research these men.

Photos of the dogs

Photos of our wonderful dogs, Rusty top, Roo centre, Sam bottom

Roo & Rusty

Our collies were getting rather old and seemed to have decided to retire from farm life, so we decided to look for another younger collie. (Jun 2007)

The local Animal Rescue Centre had a lovely looking little collie to re home, but, sadly, she was not to go to a home with young children. In the next pen was this little tri coloured chap. He looked at me and I looked at him. It was the moment I knew Roo would come home with me. Dear Roo, he has helped me so much, my soul mate.

I had never heard of the breed before, Roo is from a Collie mother by a Kelpie dog. So once it was confirmed he would come to us, I searched with Google to learn more. Roo will be three in April 2009.

Roo arrived at a time when life was big struggle, family members seriously ill, my own health not good, but Roo got me walking and the time we have together out in the lovely country side around here has restored me.Roo is such a sensitive boy, we were at a funereal and as it was far from home we took the dog with us, while giving him a break from the car he sought out the daughter of the bereaved family and sat with her the rest of the day, amazing.

Roo has settled in with us so well, bless him. In November 2008 dear old Sam our much loved collie died, he was having fits and the vet treated him, but sadly he did not recover, we lost a dear friend. We hand reared him so he meant a great deal to us. Poor Colin, my hubby, it was hard for him. Sam went every where with him, in the lorry, truck or tractor.On the UK Kelpie forum I found a local dog put up for re homing, and Rusty came to the farm. (Nov 2009)

Rusty is about 17 months old, (Mar 2009) he came from a farm on Dartmoor, he was put up to be re homed because he would not work the sheep away from his shepherd, he was happier to stay by the ATV. The farmer was struggling to get him to work on the Moors, here the dogs have to go off and bring the sheep back to the lowlands, but Rusty would not do this. And therefore not what the farm required. I picked him up on the Monday and we found him to be a dear little dog, rather thin, with a very kind temperament.

The next day I walked the dogs across the fields and poor, poor Rusty touched the electric fence we use to make paddocks for the pigs. He bolted, he was untagged and unchipped, the search lasted two days, two horrid days of terrible worry. We went around the area with posters, knocked on doors talked to all the local farmers, had chums all on the look out for him. He was found by a lovely couple who spotted him in the corner of their garage, they took him in and fed him, the next day the local farmer stopped for a chat and she asked him if he knew of anyone looking for a dog, and he did, so it was all soon resolved.

The two dogs love to sleep by the fire, wake up for a mad dash around the garden every hour or so, barking at nothing, back to sleep again, until I take them for a walk!!!! Colin often tries to take Rusty with him, but he usually gets out of the vehicle and is soon back by the fire again!!! Roo is fine on his own and not too bad with the sheep, but as we have not had our own sheep on the farm this winter I have stayed away from them, but when he and Rusty start to run in the sheep they split and tumble them over, and with the river along the edge of the meadow, the lambs could easily drown. When Colin gets the weaned lambs up in a separate field away from the river I will see how we go. Roo, on his own listens to me and will stop, but both together just go loopy!!! Rusty, won’t work the sheep at all, and given the chance will run home, that was when we first had him, so now the better weather is here, I must get out with him and see if we can make any progress. I can see why he was sacked from his Dartmoor home!!

Reading more about the breed it is the general consensus that they do not fully mature until the age of three, so Rusty has time to prove himself. We will not rush him, just give him time to gain confidence and enjoy being out and about. He seems to have a dislike of open space.

Searching on Google, I find that many of the photos of Kelpie like dogs are not given the breed name, they seem to be just Shepherd or Doberman cross. It is the same here in the UK, the breed is taking a long time to get recognition. The thing that worries me is how many are coming up for re homing, as folk find them just too full on and hard work. When walking out with Roo folk often think he is an Alsatian or Rottweiler pup.

Since having Roo I have notice how many breeds of dogs have the black and tan markings all in the same places, would be interesting to learn more about this.

It must be taken on board that this is a working breed and will not sit happily at home waiting for the keeper to come back from work, I am lucky here, the back door is open all day and the dogs can come and go around the farmyard. If you take on a Kelpie or a cross you will have the most wonderful loyal dog, and also a hurricane!!

Tribute to My Mother Edith White

Edith Kate, born 16 August 1924 elder daughter of Fred and Alice White.

She and my father, Maurice Hatley met at Vicker’s Aircraft factory during the war. Edith would come over to Maurice’s work bench and chat with him and they became firm friends. When not at the factory they would walk miles around the beautiful parts of Hampshire, along the Rivers, Test and Itchen or on the hills around Winchester. The couple became engaged. When Edith left Vickers, she went to work for the Corbett family in Itchen Abbas as a nanny and companion. Her next job was with the Chandlers Ford family of Doctor Sibley. Edith loved music and was a keen dancer. She could play the piano and the spoons. Their courtship lasted some ten years.

Before their marriage Edith was taken seriously ill and was sent to Kent to stay with her aunts. Working out in the fresh air on the farms and in the hop fields seemed to restore her health. Thought to be TB, but it was never really explained as to why she was ill. When Maurice’s father’s health started to fail Edith helped to nurse him until his death in 1952.

Edith did learn to drive, but had her confidence shattered after an accident with a cyclist and did not drive regularly after that.

After the war when Maurice left the factory he set up his own business, buying and selling government surplus vehicles, he and Edith travel all over the country bringing them back to the yard at Chandler’s Ford.

Once the children came along Edith became a full time Mother to her two children. Then in the early 1960s we began to keep donkeys and, then ponies, followed by cattle. Edith loved having the animals around, and even though she had not handled them before, she was a natural with them. Then we had the dogs and they played a very important roll in her life. When we moved to Devon in the mid 1960s Edith threw her heart and soul into the farm.

Edith was a quiet and calm woman, who had a hard working fiery man for her husband. The business worries all led to difficult times, but Mother saw us through these times with a calmness and serenity.

Looking back she gave me so much to know how to run a home and family, and cope with being married to a self employed man. Her death in 1985 from cancer was devastating to us all. I feel so said that she has not seen my son grow up and enjoy what would have been her two great grandchildren.

The Search for George Gibbins

Exeter Cathedral


In the search for George Gibbins we have looked for references to Gibbins in the Bickleigh area around Tiverton.

This is the start of the One Name Study of Gibbins in Devon before 1760. The first was Edward Gibbons:

This document, found by Elizabeth Howard gave us the first lead:

Membrane 47. 12 October 2 Chas. I 1626
Tiverton: Bargin and sale by William Peterson Doctor in Divinity, one of the Cannons Resident of Exeter, to Edward Gibbons of Exeter, Batchellor in Musicke, of the grounds. Landes, pastures etc called Middlehill in Tiverton containing by estimation in the fourth part of the grounds, landes etc called Aishley Parke containing about 1000 acres and all woodes, wastes, waters, rentes, reversions, services etc. belonging to Middlehill which William lately purchased of William Carie of Clovellie Esq. Enrolment 17 October.

Note: Ashley Park is mid way between Tiverton and Bickleigh and in Priors Portion or Pris Quarter near Bickleigh.

Gibbons, Edward (bap. 1568, d. in or before 1650), musician, was baptized at St Mary the Great, Cambridge, on 21 March 1568, son of William Gibbons (c. 1540– 1595), innkeeper and member of the waits, and his wife, Mary (d. 1603), and elder brother of Orlando Gibbons (bap. 1583, d. 1625). Details of his early education are unknown, but it was as 'Mus. Bac from Cambridge' that he was incorporated at Oxford on 7 July 1592. From 1592 to 1598 he was a lay clerk at King's College, Cambridge, and instructor of the choristers, who for a time included Orlando Gibbons.

By 1607 Edward Gibbons was in Exeter. In 1608 he became instructor of the choristers at Exeter Cathedral, a task he often deputed to others. A dispensation gave him a vicar's place in 1609, but he was twice accused of negligence in his duties. His few compositions, vocal and instrumental, were probably written before this; competent, and occasionally moving, they survive in a number of libraries. He was custos of the college of priest-vicars by 1614, and succentor from 1615 to 1627.

When Orlando Gibbons's widow died in 1626 Edward Gibbons assumed responsibility for her children, including Christopher Gibbons (bap. 1615, d. 1676). Edward's wife, Jane, whom he had married by 1596 and with whom he had six children, was buried on 7 April 1628; he afterwards married Mary Bluet. His wives brought him money, and he owned an estate at Dunsford. It is said that during the civil war he and his family were turned out of their home. He last signed the cathedral accounts in 1645, and died before July 1650, when administration of his estate was granted in the prerogative court of Canterbury. He was survived by his wife, Mary, who was buried on 9 January 1664.

ECA book 61 dated 1619 page 201, Edward Gibbons of the Canonton.[Canonteign] in Christow.

DCNQ vol. V111 page 127
Edward Gibbons along with others, accused of selling and letting Custos estates to improve the impoverished custos. Christopher Manwaringe v. Custos & College of Vicars. PRO. Chan. Proc. B & A series ii 1617 - 1621

Edward held a farm called Dandiland at Dunsford and built an oratory there.

PRO E115/172/99 certificate of residence:
These are to certefie you that Eward Gibbons of the parishe of St. Paules within the countie of the cittie of Exon, Gent where he hath made his aboade and dwellinge for manie yeres past is in the said parishe rated and taxed towards the payment of the Third Subsidie of ffive entire Subsidies granted to his Majesty in the late Session of Parliamt, holden att Westm'att Six poundes in landes as well for his estate in Dandiland within the parishe of Dunsford in the hundred of wonford in the countie of Devon as for all his estate elsewhere which att the request of the said Edward Gibbons wee his Majesties commissioners for the said Subsidie with in the said cittie & countie of Exon have thought good to signifie yeven under or handes & Seals the Three & Twentieth daye of September Anno Dm 1628.

Edward Gibbons gent, paid subsidy tax of £6/24s in St.Pauls parish in 1629

He was loyal to the King and gave £1000 to the cause, but when asked for £50 for the Parliamentarians (Roundheads) he refused and was turned from his home and estates, even though he was some 80 years of age along with his aged wife and three of his grandchildren c. 1645.

An account has survived of the treatment metered out to Edward. Writing in 1704 a relative recalled how Gibbons aged about 88 yeares, was summoned before Mr. Adam Bennert, Mr. Richard Crossing. Mr. Richard Saunders and others, Commissioners for the Parliament, and there ordered to pay them £50, which if he refused to pay he must forthwith be carried on shipboard and appeare in London at Goldsmyth's Hall. Gibbons refused and so next day they granted a warrant directed to 3 men to seize all his goods, which they did, not leaving him a bed, nor so much as a dish or a spoone, and turned him and his wife and three grand children and four servants to doore and seized all his estate.

Rose Swanton is described as" nept ex filia". Edward Gibbons seems to have died in 1650. A decree by the PCC granting the admin of his affairs to Rose Swanton, evidently a niece of one of his daughters is dated 17 Jul 1650. Not recorded as being buried in the cathedral, the parish registers of Dunsford are incomplete and too are the BTs.

The Hatley family of Shutford in Oxfordshire

William HATLEY was born in 1710 in Shutford Oxfordshire and was buried on 29 May 1780 in Shutford Oxfordshire. The Hatley family of Oxfordshire are of the Catholic faith so not always found to be logged in the parish records. They must have suffered some persecution at times.

• He had a residence in Shutford Oxfordshire.
• He worked as a Husbandsman about 1780.
• He signed a will in 1780 in Oxford Oxfordshire.

William married Elizabeth. Elizabeth was buried on 5 May 1778 in Shutford Oxfordshire.

i. Mary HATLEY was born in 1734 in Shutford Oxfordshire and was buried on 17 Sep 1768 in Shutford Oxfordshire.

ii. William HATLEY was born in 1738 in Shutford Oxfordshire and was buried on 12 May 1812 in Shutford Oxfordshire.

iii. John HATLEY was born in 1744 in Shutford Oxfordshire and died on 19 Jan 1799 in Shutford Oxfordshire aged 55.

iv. Ann HATLEY was born in 1749 in Epwell Oxfordshire and died on 1 May 1805 in Shutford Oxfordshire aged 56.

v. Elizabeth HATLEY was born in 1752 in Shutford Oxfordshire.

vi. Sarah HATLEY.

Second Generation

John HATLEY was born in 1744 in Shutford Oxfordshire and died on 19 Jan 1799 in Shutford Oxfordshire aged 55.

General Notes: Papists.

• He had a residence in Shutford Oxfordshire.
• He signed a will on 13 Jan 1799 in Oxford Oxfordshire. proved 20 Mar 1799

John married Ann ROSE, daughter of Edward ROSE and Elizabeth, in 1770 in Combroke Warwickshire. Ann was born in 1747, was christened on 12 Apr 1752 in Newbottle Northamptonshire, and was buried on 1 May 1805 in Shutford Oxfordshire.

Burial Notes: Roman Catholic. Research Notes: Ann bapt. and parents needs checking
• She had a residence in Shutford Oxfordshire.

i. Catherine HATLEY was born about 1771 in Shutford Oxfordshire.

ii. Horatio HATLEY was born in 1777 in Shutford Oxfordshire, died on 27 Feb 1853 in Shutford Oxfordshire aged 76, and was buried on 4 Mar 1853 in Shutford Oxfordshire.

iii. Lewis HATLEY was born about 1781 in Shutford Oxfordshire and was buried on 16 Oct 1864 in West End Hampshire.

He is know and documented to be post master for West End, but on the birth of his children and his son's marriage certificate he is shown to be a paper maker. There were paper mills in
West End at Gater's Mill (Upmill) and in Durley. His daughter Mary Ann took on the post office after her father.

• He had a residence in Victoria House Swaythling Road West End Hampshire.
• He had a residence about 1781 in Shutford Oxfordshire.
• He owned house in 1799 in Shutford Oxfordshire. Lewis inherited this house in Shutford and 10 guineas in his father's will
• He had a residence circa 1810 in South Stoneham Hampshire.
• He worked as an Agricultural Labourer in 1841 in West End Hampshire.
• He owned 2 cottages in 1845 in West End Hampshire. plots 589, occupied by Charles Dunsford and living in plot 590
• He worked as a Papermaker in 1851.
• He worked as a Post Master in 1859. found in White's Directory
• He worked as a Sub Post Master and Grocer in 1861 in South Stoneham Hampshire.

Lewis married Sarah HOOPER, daughter of Thomas HOOPER and Mary, on 2 Jun 1810 in South Stoneham Hampshire. Sarah was christened on 1 Apr 1792 in South Stoneham Hampshire and was buried on 20 Apr 1862 in West End Hampshire.

• She had a residence in Victoria House Swaythling Road West End Hampshire.
• She worked as a Manager of Grocery Business in 1861.

M iv. John Constantine HATLEY was born about 1784 in Shutford Oxfordshire and was buried on 18 Jun 1822 in South Stoneham Hampshire.

F v. Elizabeth HATLEY was born in 1785.

M vi. Joshua HATLEY was born in 1786.

M vii. Edward Patrick HATLEY was born on 23 Dec 1786 in Shutford Oxfordshire and was christened on 2 Jan 1787 in Brailes Warwickshire.

" A Bit of Binder String"

The Gibbins Family

" Someone, some day will write a book about the Gibbins Family, but it will have to be someone much better informed than yours truly. The farming members alone run into scores and are contained mainly within the Exeter, Cullompton and Honiton branches. I know just enough of the ramifications of the family to known that it is very large, but not enough to go into detail. However the purpose of mentioning this remarkable clan is to pen a song which may be of interest to you and which, I am told used to be sung often by Grandfather Gibbins, who I may add is still very active and of our oldest members.

The Devonshire Farmer Eastern. [Perhaps this is a local farming newspaper]

A Bit of Binder String.

Dost mind Bill Bates as used to work for Drake at Badgers End
There weren’t a tool about the farm this feller couldn’t mend
From a hayfork to a harvester or any mortal thing
Old Bill could always fix it with a bit if binder string

One day a Friesian bull got out and raged and tore around
Nobody dared go near ‘im as he roared and hooked the ground
Till Boss shouts “Bill” the bull’s got out and been and broke his ring
An Bill lassoed the beggar wi’ a bit of binder string

Bill courted Mabel seven years an’; then he said “Let’s wed”
I’ve got a table an’ some chairs an’ Granny’s feather bed
Ther’s half a ton o’ taters up in the field as I can bring
An’ I’ve made some handsome doormats out of thic’ there binder string
Well Mabel said “ We’d best get wed before they cut the hay
So they had a slap up Wedding on the seventeenth of May
But when they got to the church Bill found he had gone and lost the ring
So he had to marry Mabel with a loop of binder string

Next year a little daughter came to bless the happy pair
Wi’ girt blue eyes and a tuft of ginger hair
And Bill, he says to Parson at the baby’s Christening
Zee, ‘er be just the colour of a bit of binder string

Well time went on an’ old Bill died an’ came to Heaven’s Door
He heard them all a singing there and he was worried sore
An’ he says to good St. Peter, “Zir I’ve never sung before
I were always kep’ so busy mendin’ things wi’ binder string”
“Don’t worry Bill”, St. Peter said “The Good Lord understands
He’ve been a carpenter and likes to see folk use their hands
An we’m veryhappy to see ‘ee here, we’ve plenty who can sing
But we need a handy chap like thee, has ‘ee brought some binder string?

So Bill do bide in Heaven now, he’s very happy there
He’s got a liddle workshop round behind St. Peter’s chair
An’ while the Angels play their harps and all the saints do sing
Bill mends the little cherub’s toys with bits of binder string. "

Note: Sadly we do not know who wrote this page, it is a copy of a hand written note found in the farm papers and maps when we moved to the farm in 1991.

The Elusive George Gibbins

George GIBBINS, possible son of Edward GIBBINS and Mary QUICK, was born about 1755, died in Broadclyst Devonshire, and was buried on 21 Jan 1841 in Bickleigh Tiverton Devonshire.
General Notes: I have not been able to find the christening and therefore not confirmed who George's parents are. I believe him to be a child of Edward Gibbins as Edward was christening children in Bickleigh at this time, 1735 to 1755.
• Occupation: Farmer.
• Residence: Abt 1781, Well Place Bickleigh Tiverton Devonshire. The Land Tax Assessments show George renting Well Place from Mrs Gill from 1789 to 1792
• Residence: Abt 1795, Bradford Farm Halberton Devonshire. The Land Tax Assessments show George renting Pitt and Bradford, tax levied at £7-9-2
• Residence: Abt 1824, Pound Tenement Silverton Devonshire. The Land tax Assessments show George renting Pound from, what looks like the name Gwyn, tax paid was £3-6-6d. George took on apprentices for Pound, James King aged 10 in 1820 and William Hollett aged 9 in 1833
• Residence: Abt 1832, Town Silverton Devonshire. The Land Tax Assessments show he paid a tax of £3-6-4
• Residence: Abt 1841, Broadclyst Devonshire.

George married Elizabeth BURSELL on 1 Aug 1781 in Bickleigh Tiverton Devonshire. Elizabeth was born about 1756 and was buried on 23 Feb 1837 in Bickleigh Tiverton Devonshire. Marriage Notes: Witness: Jane and Eleanor Clapp
General Notes: I have searched for many years to find Elizabeth's parents to no avail, but I would think she is a relative of the BURSELL family from Halberton.

Their children:

+ 2 F i Mary GIBBINS was christened on 30 Jun 1782 in Bickleigh Tiverton Devonshire.
+ 3 M ii. George GIBBINS was christened on 11 Nov 1784 in Bickleigh Tiverton Devonshire and died on 16 Sep 1858 in Cullompton Devonshire aged 73.
4 F iii. Elizabeth GIBBINS was christened on 17 Sep 1787 in Bickleigh Tiverton Devonshire.
+ 5 F iv. Sarah GIBBINS was christened on 14 Feb 1790 in Bickleigh Tiverton Devonshire.
6 F v. Mary GIBBINS was born on 9 Aug 1791 and was christened on 9 Apr 1792 in Cullompton Devonshire.
7 M vi. Edward GIBBINS was christened on 26 Dec 1793 in Tiverton Devonshire, died in Halberton Devonshire, and was buried on 30 May 1794 in Bickleigh Tiverton Devonshire.
+ 8 M vii. John GIBBINS was born on 17 Mar 1795 in Halberton Devonshire, was christened on 6 Jan 1796 in Cullompton Devonshire, died on 8 Mar 1856 aged 60, and was buried on 15 Mar 1856 in Broadclyst Devonshire.
9 F viii. Jane GIBBINS was born in Halberton Devonshire and was christened on 30 Jan 1799 in Butterleigh Devonshire.

The Hatley Surname

This is an English habitation surname. It originates from the village of Cockayne Hatley in Bedfordshire, recorded as Hattenleia, in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle of 960 AD or from East Hatley and Hatley St. George, recorded as Hateleia in the Cambridge Inquisitions of 1080. The three villages are close together on a piece of raised land, the first part of the name is said to have derive from "hatt", meaning the top of the hill, with "leah", a fenced area suitable for farming.

The first recorded spelling of the name in parish registers is thought to be that of one John Hatley. He married Agnes Barlow at Grantchester, in Cambridgeshire, 23rd Jan 1541. Other early mentions of the name are Arnold de Hateleia 1198 Bedfordshire Fleet of Fines and Agnes de Hatleye 1275 Subsidy Rolls Worchestershire.

On the whole the name is spelt Hatley, but I have found the following variations, Attlee, Hadleigh or Hadley, Hateley.

The Gibbons Surname

Origins of the Surname.

The name is spelt in many different ways over the years, Gibbins, Gibbings, Gibbens, Gubbins, Gubbons, Gibbons, and sometimes with just one “b” with or without the “s”. In many earlier documents it is shown as Gybbons, Gybbens, even Guibbon, or Guibon.

I often ignore the various spelling of names as they are nearly always spelt phonetically, but I would like to note that there seems to be a trend for Edward the Historian to be “Gibbon”, as is the name of Thomas the MP for Exeter, c.1654. The musical family is “Gibbons”. My husband’s family is “Gibbins”, with one exception, a cousin who became so fed up with correcting the spelling from Gibbons to Gibbins gave up using the “i” and kept the “o”.

The surname is described as follows:

1. Son of Gilbert, English, patronymic derived from the Christian name Gilbert 'pledge, bright,' a favourite name during the Middle Ages, partly due to Gilbert of Sempringham who founded the Gilbertine order in the twelfth century and was canonized in 1202.
2. Place name Marsh Gibbon in Buckinghamshire.
3. Ralph Gibiun 1176 is one of the first recorded users of the name.
4. French meaning gift-friend.
5. Gibbwn, the gire-falcon
6. Gibbs - an English surname from the dim. of Gilbert. Gibbon appears as a personal name 15th C. The variant Gibby may derive from the Welsh name Cybi. Gibb, Gibbon, Gibbons, Gibby, Gibba.

The earliest example if the name I have found in Devon is:
1332 Richard Gyboun paid tax of 12d in the Hundred of Colliton Devon, Lay subsidy.

The Australian Kelpie

It is sometimes thought the Kelpie originated as a cross between a Border Collie and a Wild Dingo. But there are documents that state the Kelpie is strain of Collie from the North of England. But, which ever way, this hard-working dog has been used for herding and guarding Australian livestock since the latter end of the 19th century.

The name comes from the water kelpie found in the book “Kidnapped” by Robert Louis Stevenson.

The Australian Kelpie is compact, energetic and robust. This brave little dog is more than capable of herding large numbers of sheep or cattle, they are also very good at running on the backs of livestock, to get ahead of the flock or herd. This dog uses the strong eye and jaws to move the animals on. They are wonderful for loading sheep and cattle into trucks ready for market.

The characteristics are pricked ears and a short coat that comes in a variety of colours, ranging from fawn, chocolate or blue, to tri-coloured black or red with tan markings. They also bark loudly at times!!

The breed has never ending amounts of energy. This dog has to be active and working. Having them as a house pet is not really recommended. But if you have the time to do some kind of agility work and the time for long walks it may settle in an urban home. The Kelpie is used to being a guardian, and is very much a one-person dog that bonds strongly with its keeper. They seem fine around children, but I do get some jealousy when I have the grandchildren here.The Kelpie has a short, double coat which is weather-resistant. The dog should not be bathed unless necessary, this is to preserve the coat's natural oils. They do shed hair all year round. Kelpie is a workaholic breed and need to be given a job to do to occupy his keen mind. It is sad to see so many coming up for re homing because folk have bought them as pups off a farm and take them into town to live. This is not good and they really need a working home.

If you are looking for a dog, please, please look at where you live, the hours you are away from home, the time you have to give the dog exercise, choose a breed that will suit that lifestyle. Research the breed characteristics and on the whole working type dogs do not make the best pets unless you can give them your full attention, day in day out.

Introduction

Good day m’dears.

The reason for doing a blog is so that I can share my genealogy research. It seems a shame to leave it sat on the hard drive going nowhere, and it would be wonderful if I can find answers to the many questions and gaps I have.

I also have a passion for sheepdogs. We have had Border Collies for many years and now have two Australian Kelpies. So will use the blog to help these wonderful dogs get recognition and the right kind of home this busy little dog needs, too many are ending up needing re homing.

My Hatley family came to Hampshire from the Shutford area of Oxfordshire, a Catholic family. I hope to put a chart on here to describe this family and my research.

The Gibbins name is my husband’s, all from Devon. I want to get this tree back further, but am stuck with being unable to find the parents and christening, c. 1756 of one George Gibbins of Bickleigh near Tiverton. To try and find this man I have started to work on a One Name Study of Gibbins and all its many spellings variations in Devon before 1760. This has led me, with help of my very good friend Elizabeth Howard, to glean notes on many interesting Gibbons families, some out side the county, like the musical Gibbons, Orlando and Edward, the ancestors of the Historian Edward or Edmund Gibbon. I also have notes on Heraldry.